WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Coffee 7:42 Sat Oct 1
Saturday football
ARSENAL vs TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR (1230)
North London plates up the hors d’oeuvres to the weekend’s Premier League action. It should be a tasty Latin dish of top versus third with just a point between them. You can picture the expression of anger and injustice in the losing manager – both have honed that look to perfection. For the neutral, a good start the day, you’d hope. Home win.

BOURNEMOUTH vs BRENTFORD (1500)
For all their woes, the Cherries remain in approximate mid-table position, a single point behind their visitors. Both sides, on their day, are capable of pulling off a win and it’s hard to differentiate between them. Draw.

CRYSTAL PALACE vs CHELSEA (1500)
A customarily modest start to the season for the hosts and, by their own standards, for the visitors too. Viera’s Palace should give their guests a proper game, but it would be a surprise if Chelsea, with the benefit of a fortnight under Drill-Sergeant Potter, don’t take all the points. Away win.

FULHAM vs NEWCASTLE UNITED (1500)
For all their relegation favouritism, Fulham have shown that they should not be underestimated. They’re in sixth place, dontcha know? A full three points ahead of the Barcodes, who haven’t yet got their season going and who should be higher than they are. Is today the day when it starts in earnest? A monochrome battle in store. Away win.

LIVERPOOL vs BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION (1500)
How long will Brighton keep shining with Potter gloss? Their present fourth place suggests it has some life in it yet. Liverpool, on the other hand, have some catching up to do. But as the old saying doesn’t go, a wounded Pool is a dangerous Pool. Home win.

SOUTHAMPTON vs EVERTON (1500)
The day’s other Scouse versus south coast game sees Everton buoyed by their first win of the season last time out. The Saints are an unpredictable lot, going down with a whimper one day and pulling the rabbit out of the hat against expectations the next. It could be their day, and they’ll certainly fancy it. Home win.

WEST HAM UNITED vs WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS (1730)
Timeo. Latin for ‘I fear’. The OS describes both sides as having made a slow start to the season. Other descriptions are available. But it’s true that both have managed six goals between them in fourteen outings. Which is piss poor and makes this arguably the least appealing game of the day. Still, there’s a brave (or plain stupid) TV scheduler who’s decided to put this on live for the benefit of insomniacs in Asia and beyond. The Latin duo of Scamacca and Paqueta must start, along with Cornet. There are contenders aplenty to warm the bench in their places. Wolves are tough to break down – they’ve conceded an average of just one goal a game (the same as leaders Arsenal) – and we simply cannot afford to offer them the freedom of the London Stadium. Yet: timeo – for another dodgy starting selection, for inappropriate substitutions, for players’ confidence on the wane, and for the effect of an increasingly exasperated crowd. We’ve all seen where that leads. But despite it all, do we – can we – dare hope for a belated, winning classic to warm the cockles of claret and blue hearts? Non on vestra nelly. Also Latin, of a kind. Draw, probably goalless.



*SUNDAY*

MANCHESTER CITY vs MANCHESTER UNITED (1400)
Ten Hag seems to be getting something right at Old Trafford, albeit slowly, but this will likely be his sternest test to date. City will be just too good for his side, though he will hope to leave the Etihad with some pride intact. Home win.

LEEDS UNITED vs ASTON VILLA (1630)
You feel that Gerrard is now on borrowed time at Villa, despite a win last time. Leeds are similarly inconsistent although they come into this on the back of two defeats and a draw in their last three. A Tough one to call, which makes the fence the most inviting place on which to park a prediction. Draw.


*MONDAY*

LEICESTER CITY vs NOTTINGHAM FOREST (2000)
The bottom two face each other. If there’s anything to encourage either side, it is the number of goals they’ve conceded: a whopping 39 between them in a combined 14 games. Other than that, the Foxes come into this on the back of six straight defeats (ouch) and Forest on four defeats. The fence beckons once more in what promises to be an intriguing, nervous and hard-fought midlands derby. Draw.



*CHAMPIONSHIP*

As October ushers in winter’s climatic pleasures, Sheffield United top this most dogged division sensing a delayed return to the place they left with such rancour in 2007. Lord Griffith would cheering in his grave. They host lowly Birmingham this afternoon, while tweeting up their backsides the Canaries visit still lowlier Blackpool. In the congested mid-table, Watford now under the command of Slaven Bilic, who will be renting rather than buying, have a tricky visit to Stoke in Sunday’s only game, but will know that a win could propel them into the top six. In the lower latitudes, the hapless Coventry maintain their steadfast claim to bottom spot as they host third-from-bottom Middlesboro. But just three points separate 11th position from the relegation zone, so pretty much anything can change rapidly with each passing weekend. Don’t keep your eyes off the Championship.

Replies - In Chronological Order (Show Newest Messages First)

, 11:17 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Thanks coffee, regarding our game you seem more decaf than necessary.

I reckon for our team it will be a clear case of carpe diet followed by veni vidi vici.

, 11:18 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Diem not diet.

ted fenton 12:35 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Morning Coffee

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cheesebgt 12:35 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
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Coffee 12:38 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
, 11:17 Sat Oct 1

:-) carpe diet.

Hope you're right for the rest, assuming that's about Moyes. I really hope he can turn things around, starting today, but I've got a bad feeling about this evening.

charleyfarley 1:10 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Thanks Coff just wish Arsenal and Spurs could both lose

Britannia Pub 3:30 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Is Rio going on safari after the Arsenal v Spurs game? He only needs the pith hat and he’s sorted.

Sven Roeder 3:56 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Good news for Tottenham......E Royal will miss 3 games.
Awful player

ironsofcanada 3:57 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Couldn't not have happened to a nicer team, but probably a harsh red.

Sven Roeder 4:06 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Put his studs halfway up his shin in an action that looked more deliberate than an attempt at a tackle.
Thought Tottenham were ordinary when we played them. Despite how average we have been we should have beaten them.
Rely entirely on playing on the break & havent been at the races here.
Kane impotent again but he scored a pen so that all that matters to him.

Brazil have some tricky fuckers with Jesus & Martinelli

ironsofcanada 4:12 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Sven Roeder 4:06 Sat Oct 1

Looked more like he was late and missed, but all opinions.


A few years younger but interesting that Martinelli gets into the Brazil a fair bit less than our Brazilian. To be fair, ours has a little bite which is rarer amongst them than trickery.

Sven Roeder 4:33 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Not sure even Antonio Toupee will argue with that red

I guess if you are trying to get in the Brazil forward line ahead of Raphinha , Neymar, Vinicius Jr & Richarlsion you wont play all the time.
Jesus , Martinelli & Gabriel were all left out of the latest squad .... helps to have Edu as your sporting director to call in some favours & give them a rest for today.
Richarlison played & was average today

ironsofcanada 5:02 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Sven

Paqueta is part of that front line most of the time he plays, sometimes playing on Martinelli 's left wing. I just watched him there for a half against Tunisia.

I don't think Edu had anything do with Martinelli getting only 27' in their June games.

Since he broke in in March, Martinelli had played 78'. In the same period, Paqueta has played over 400' including more in WC qualifying.

It may change in future, probably will, playing for us, but recently Paqueta is more of Brazil player than Martinelli, wouldn't you say?

Sven Roeder 5:23 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
More of a Brazilian type player or played more games?
I bow to your Canadian pedantry.
Martinelli is 21 & Brazil must have ludicrous riches if he doesnt make the World Cup squad. Very talented


Great day for Arsenal so far.... Chelsea & Liverpool behind. 2-0 to Brighton at Anfield inside 20mins

ironsofcanada 5:29 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Sven

"I bow to your Canadian pedantry."

Ha.

A couple very original WHO responses in there.

He's got Brazilian skill and some grit, which is why the national manager plays him in the attacking line.

We need to find the best way to use him.

goose 5:43 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Another dodgy VAR decision goes Chelsea’s way.

Mike Oxsaw 5:59 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
I guess the authorities have been told that Chelsea must be seen to succeed - or even improve - without Russian money.

Who says politics and sport never sleep together?

Jaan Kenbrovin 6:01 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Bournemouth should have had a penalty but the ref stuck with his decision after VAR asked him to review it

BRANDED 6:02 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Course they did

BTW Wolves fans must have the most pikey dress sense and be the most obese in the UK. Probably

Northern Sold 6:50 Sat Oct 1
Re: Saturday football
Watching the Scouse v BHA game... absolute cracker... Trossard has been quite superb... oh and VVD and TTA have been SHIT

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